Comments on: What’s wrong with a Bill of Rights? http://www.liberal-vision.org/2010/02/10/whats-wrong-with-a-bill-of-rights/ Looking Forward to Freedom Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:13:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Psi http://www.liberal-vision.org/2010/02/10/whats-wrong-with-a-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-4026 Psi Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:27:13 +0000 http://www.liberal-vision.org/?p=4981#comment-4026 that was to the trade union question that was to the trade union question

]]> By: Psi http://www.liberal-vision.org/2010/02/10/whats-wrong-with-a-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-4025 Psi Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:26:39 +0000 http://www.liberal-vision.org/?p=4981#comment-4025 Freedom of association, a civil right. But if you are thinking of the right of the Trade Union to be recognised by the employer there can be no such right, people have human rights not organisations. Any legislation governing recognition of trade unions and the interaction with employers would not be part of a list of “fundamental” rights as they cannot be seen as universal and certainly not time less. Even if you believe in such legislation, attempting to incorporate it in to a difficult to amend bill of rights would cause all sorts of problems as working practices change. Freedom of association, a civil right. But if you are thinking of the right of the Trade Union to be recognised by the employer there can be no such right, people have human rights not organisations.

Any legislation governing recognition of trade unions and the interaction with employers would not be part of a list of “fundamental” rights as they cannot be seen as universal and certainly not time less.

Even if you believe in such legislation, attempting to incorporate it in to a difficult to amend bill of rights would cause all sorts of problems as working practices change.

]]> By: Foregone Conclusion http://www.liberal-vision.org/2010/02/10/whats-wrong-with-a-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-4024 Foregone Conclusion Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:16:35 +0000 http://www.liberal-vision.org/?p=4981#comment-4024 Or for that matter, freedom to trade? Or for that matter, freedom to trade?

]]> By: Foregone Conclusion http://www.liberal-vision.org/2010/02/10/whats-wrong-with-a-bill-of-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-4023 Foregone Conclusion Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:16:12 +0000 http://www.liberal-vision.org/?p=4981#comment-4023 So where does the right to join a trade union come in this? Is that a social right or a civil right? So where does the right to join a trade union come in this? Is that a social right or a civil right?

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