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	<title>Comments on: My best moment at conference so far&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.THAT Ed Fordham moment!</title>
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		<title>By: Liberal Vision &#187; Blog Archive &#187; THAT Ed Fordham moment at conference</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal Vision &#187; Blog Archive &#187; THAT Ed Fordham moment at conference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a post I put up last week concerning a certain ex-Tory councillor, due to popular demand, here are the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ziggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;the BBC takes its cue from what appears in the rest of the press&#039;

No thr BBC is a state propaganda machine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;the BBC takes its cue from what appears in the rest of the press&#8217;</p>
<p>No thr BBC is a state propaganda machine</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Huntbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Huntbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian, the BBC takes its cue from what appears in the rest of the press, so if the rest of the press has a right-wing bias, it tends to pick up on that. From what is reported in these columns, it certainly seems very keen to give air to the views of your right-wing fringe group, I do not recall it being so eager to get people from left-wing fringe elements of the party to commentate on its proceedings.

You might note that I have expressed some sympathy for the party leadership&#039;s view on tuition fees, I have not been one of those jumping up and down and saying this is a commitment which should never be dropped or even postponed. From this you might see that my position is not the simplistic &quot;tax and spend&quot; one I suspect you suppose it to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian, the BBC takes its cue from what appears in the rest of the press, so if the rest of the press has a right-wing bias, it tends to pick up on that. From what is reported in these columns, it certainly seems very keen to give air to the views of your right-wing fringe group, I do not recall it being so eager to get people from left-wing fringe elements of the party to commentate on its proceedings.</p>
<p>You might note that I have expressed some sympathy for the party leadership&#8217;s view on tuition fees, I have not been one of those jumping up and down and saying this is a commitment which should never be dropped or even postponed. From this you might see that my position is not the simplistic &#8220;tax and spend&#8221; one I suspect you suppose it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Matthew, those right-wing disciples of the wealthy at the BBC are so clearly biased towards the views you so despise.

Cruel, cruel world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Matthew, those right-wing disciples of the wealthy at the BBC are so clearly biased towards the views you so despise.</p>
<p>Cruel, cruel world.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Huntbach</title>
		<link>http://www.liberal-vision.org/2009/09/21/my-best-moment-at-conference-so-farthat-ed-fordham-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Huntbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here we go. Someone interrupts a debate and gets a lot of coverage by saying the sort of populist things which go down well with simple people and which also go down VERY well with the wealthy, who are the principal beneficiaries of that person&#039;s arguments. And that person doesn&#039;t reveal who he really is, indeed pretends to be something else. 

As I&#039;ve said previously, how very easy it is to get coverage, articles in newspapers, interviews on the radio and television, if you&#039;re saying the sort of things the people who run this country like to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here we go. Someone interrupts a debate and gets a lot of coverage by saying the sort of populist things which go down well with simple people and which also go down VERY well with the wealthy, who are the principal beneficiaries of that person&#8217;s arguments. And that person doesn&#8217;t reveal who he really is, indeed pretends to be something else. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said previously, how very easy it is to get coverage, articles in newspapers, interviews on the radio and television, if you&#8217;re saying the sort of things the people who run this country like to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ziggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading that made me luagh out loud 

Good on Ed

Though I don&#039;t think Vince&#039;s mansion tax has been misreported by the media or is in fact a bit foolish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading that made me luagh out loud </p>
<p>Good on Ed</p>
<p>Though I don&#8217;t think Vince&#8217;s mansion tax has been misreported by the media or is in fact a bit foolish</p>
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		<title>By: Updates on an awkward question &#171; Freethinking Economist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Updates on an awkward question &#171; Freethinking Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liberal Vision tell the story much better. To cut it short, the guy was some kind of set up &#8211; a Tory councillor from Bournemouth, with TWO houses worth millions, and in no way unable to pay what for him would have been a trifling bill., [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Liberal Vision tell the story much better. To cut it short, the guy was some kind of set up &#8211; a Tory councillor from Bournemouth, with TWO houses worth millions, and in no way unable to pay what for him would have been a trifling bill., [...]</p>
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		<title>By: STB2</title>
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		<dc:creator>STB2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to the extensive coverage this shameful incident will receive over at ConservativeHome and Iain Dale&#039;s blog.  Well done to Mr. Fordham for exposing it.  Alas, the LibDems are not wholly innocent of such tactics, but we can look forward to a particularly nasty time from the Tories now they have the scent of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to the extensive coverage this shameful incident will receive over at ConservativeHome and Iain Dale&#8217;s blog.  Well done to Mr. Fordham for exposing it.  Alas, the LibDems are not wholly innocent of such tactics, but we can look forward to a particularly nasty time from the Tories now they have the scent of power.</p>
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		<title>By: Ollie Cromwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ollie Cromwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, what utter nonsense, yes it certainly sounds like the guy is a stupid immature prat, he sounds like a Tory version of Alex Hilton. But how on earth can you claim that his behaviour is proof that &quot;that swathes of Mr Cameron&#039;s Tory party still don&#039;t get it.&quot;

How is the behaviour of one idiot proof of any such thing? Please explain because it does not seem to me that we should defame 40%+ of the electorate based on the childish antics of one man. It just does not seem wise to insult 40% of the voting population whilst trying at the same time to win them over.

I also am astonished that this is the &quot;best moment&quot; from the conference so far. What a bloody awful event it must be if that is true.

I understand that it is a strategic shift to turn fire on the Tories as Labour are already dead but if you are going to do that try not to use a pop gun. They will just laugh at you.

If one of the LDs more colourful characters acts as stupidly at the Tory or Labour conference would that prove &quot;vast swathes&quot; of Lib Dem&#039;s don&#039;t get it? No it will prove that another nutter got into another conference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, what utter nonsense, yes it certainly sounds like the guy is a stupid immature prat, he sounds like a Tory version of Alex Hilton. But how on earth can you claim that his behaviour is proof that &#8220;that swathes of Mr Cameron&#8217;s Tory party still don&#8217;t get it.&#8221;</p>
<p>How is the behaviour of one idiot proof of any such thing? Please explain because it does not seem to me that we should defame 40%+ of the electorate based on the childish antics of one man. It just does not seem wise to insult 40% of the voting population whilst trying at the same time to win them over.</p>
<p>I also am astonished that this is the &#8220;best moment&#8221; from the conference so far. What a bloody awful event it must be if that is true.</p>
<p>I understand that it is a strategic shift to turn fire on the Tories as Labour are already dead but if you are going to do that try not to use a pop gun. They will just laugh at you.</p>
<p>If one of the LDs more colourful characters acts as stupidly at the Tory or Labour conference would that prove &#8220;vast swathes&#8221; of Lib Dem&#8217;s don&#8217;t get it? No it will prove that another nutter got into another conference.</p>
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